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are still lost. joining me now is bob shrum and alicia menendez, host and producer for huff post live. bob, what will it take for the party to learn the lessons of this election? >> they've got to get past the immediate crisis in terms of the fiscal cliff. no matter what is true, no matter what he says, john boehner is going to have to sound like he's resistant and putting up a fight but at the end of the day he's going to have to make a deal that is going to go by those term. and then we're going to go on to the debt ceiling and if the republican party in the house crashes this economy and crashes the markets by refusing to extend the debt ceiling, the business community is going to go nuts. and, b, this will become the party of recession, tax rates for the top, hating social security, and hating medicare. that's a recipe for long-term political irrelevance. >> now, alicia, let me give you a news flash that came in. conservative blogger erick erickson is up with a petition to have john boehner fired. it says, quote, speaker boehner is undercutting conservative principles by putting forth
, d.c. and when you look at what happened in the senate, with bob dole on the floor, the most honored republican to serve in the senate in a long time, a war hero begging them to confirm that treaty, to ratify that treaty, 38 republicans voted no on some whacked out idea. >> no. that's the danger, governor, of being dismissive. and i think you're right. but the ugliness combined with their powerful moment, they are talking about breaking the president, that's the president's word, i'll break them. and to stand up and see them vote in 2012 against disability with the former standing party asking them, the ugliness of this is unimaginable. >> horrible. >> joan? >> it really was a low moment. and almost unpredictable. every time i think they can't surprise me, they surprise me again, reverend al. so governor rendell is right. it's way too early for us to crow, to say that the fever is broken. this is a sign that jim demint thinks that he's going to strip the betina off the heritage foundation. they are really a talking point tank but now it shows the ideology rather than intellect. jim d
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